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FRANKFURT — After settling the pay dispute with ground staff, Lufthansa is now seeking an agreement with the pilots. The talks are hampered by new unrest at Lufthansa Cargo: pilots on the line to Hong Kong are threatened with a return to multi-day room quarantine on site.

The Cockpit Association has prepared the pilots of the main Lufthansa companies to go on strike during an election, but initially counts on new negotiations with the group.

“We have made four appointments in the next few weeks to see how far we have come,” collective bargaining committee chairman Andreas Pinheiro said in a podcast.

The talks are expected to take place in a confidential setting, as Lufthansa confirmed on Monday. There should be no external reporting. According to some information, no strikes are planned during the negotiations.

The collective bargaining partners have already gone through six rounds of negotiations, which have so far produced no results. Lufthansa management had recently signaled a willingness to compromise and agreed to VC’s partial request for 5.5% more cash for the remainder of 2022. On the other hand, no statement was made on further compensation requests. automatic inflation from 2023 or on changes to the tariff structure.

Lufthansa boss Carsten Spohr had promised the pilots a new fleet commitment. As a result, a number of aircraft in the Group’s fleet would once again be reserved solely for pilots of the parent company Lufthansa.

The group had canceled the previous commitment of 325 jets at the end of 2021 and had also announced that it would shift more traffic to flight operations that operate at lower cost. These include “Eurowings Discover” and “Lufthansa Cityline 2”, which is currently being created.

China operations dispute

Meanwhile, there are new troubles at Lufthansa Cargo over the Hong Kong route. The current route with a stop in Dubai does not meet the minimum block time of eight hours. Lufthansa is therefore planning rotations to Hong Kong again from September with around forty rooms on site and a layover time of 29 to 59 hours.

Cargo pilots had previously called for “reasonable” stopover rules “in the rest of China”, according to a circular from the staff representation, available on aero.de. This can be achieved, for example, by reducing the Beijing line to seven days of traffic and reducing the downtime associated with it.

Lufthansa obtained last week the agreement of the arbitration board for the new stopovers in Hong Kong. “Contrary to all claims, there no longer seems to be any desire to form a majority,” reacted the Lufthansa cargo pilots.

© dpa-AFX, aero.de | Illustration: Lufthansa | 08/08/2022 11:34



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Post from 08.09.2022 – 00:33

Can anyone explain what is happening in the context of minimum block time and what the arbitration board is?


As far as I remember it has to do with EASA
make flight limitations. A rest in flight is only considered as such if the time remaining is at least 2h30 without a break. With 3 pilots, however, this cannot be implemented in less than 8 hours. So this route runs without rest and the MFDP is somewhere around 10:30-11am.
So a connecting flight to ICN or TYO, for example, is also not possible because it would then be too long. The only option I would see would be 4 people in the cockpit, so 2 do DXB-HKG and 2 rest the whole flight then HKG-ICN vice versa. Or you can redo FRA-HKG directly and extend to ICN. But that’s not my guess.

Both are wrong, it has something to do with internal agreements on the number of 2-legged widenings. No more flights to ICN as ICN payload restrictions are too high, so via DWC.

Message of August 8, 2022 – 9:50 p.m.

Can anyone explain what is happening in the context of minimum block time and what the arbitration board is?


As far as I remember it has to do with EASA
make flight limitations. A rest in flight is only considered as such if the time remaining is at least 2h30 without a break. With 3 pilots, however, this cannot be implemented in less than 8 hours. So this route runs without rest and the MFDP is somewhere around 10:30-11am.
So a connecting flight to ICN or TYO, for example, is also not possible because it would then be too long. The only option I would see would be 4 people in the cockpit, so 2 do DXB-HKG and 2 rest the whole flight then HKG-ICN vice versa. Or you can redo FRA-HKG directly and extend to ICN. But that’s not my guess.

Thanks

Can anyone explain what is happening in the context of minimum block time and what the arbitration board is?

Conciliation counseling is similar to arbitration. When employers and employee representatives cannot agree on certain issues, outside help is sought.

https://www.workscouncil.com/knowing/workshopschairman/einigungsstelle


Thanks.

Published on 08/08/2022 – 2:20 p.m.

Can anyone explain what is happening in the context of minimum block time and what the arbitration board is?


As far as I remember it has to do with EASA
make flight limitations. A rest in flight is only considered as such if the time remaining is at least 2h30 without a break. With 3 pilots, however, this cannot be implemented in less than 8 hours. So this route runs without rest and the MFDP is somewhere around 10:30-11am.
So a connecting flight to ICN or TYO, for example, is also not possible because it would then be too long. The only option I would see would be 4 people in the cockpit, so 2 do DXB-HKG and 2 rest the whole flight then HKG-ICN vice versa. Or you can redo FRA-HKG directly and extend to ICN. But that’s not my guess.

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